1 00:00:07,030 --> 00:00:04,150 while the expedition 40 station crew 2 00:00:09,350 --> 00:00:07,040 continues it's a busy day some 260 3 00:00:11,190 --> 00:00:09,360 statute miles above earth another crew 4 00:00:14,230 --> 00:00:11,200 of astronauts took space exploration 5 00:00:16,470 --> 00:00:14,240 below the sea the nemo 18 crew 6 00:00:20,150 --> 00:00:16,480 japanese astronaut aki hoshide who is 7 00:00:22,630 --> 00:00:20,160 serving as the nemo 18 commander and is 8 00:00:24,710 --> 00:00:22,640 his uh crew nasa astronauts jeanette 9 00:00:27,189 --> 00:00:24,720 epps and mark vande high and 10 00:00:28,310 --> 00:00:27,199 european space agency astronaut thomas 11 00:00:30,470 --> 00:00:28,320 pesquet 12 00:00:33,030 --> 00:00:30,480 who are now at submerged underwater for 13 00:00:34,790 --> 00:00:33,040 their third day of its nine-day 14 00:00:37,350 --> 00:00:34,800 underwater mission at the aquarius 15 00:00:39,430 --> 00:00:37,360 habitat that is serving as a test bed 16 00:00:40,950 --> 00:00:39,440 for new space tools as well as training 17 00:00:43,030 --> 00:00:40,960 grounds for the astronauts getting 18 00:00:45,110 --> 00:00:43,040 first-hand experience and knowledge 19 00:00:47,029 --> 00:00:45,120 working and living in an extreme 20 00:00:49,430 --> 00:00:47,039 environment in preparation for space 21 00:00:51,430 --> 00:00:49,440 flight this morning i had a chance to go 22 00:00:54,709 --> 00:00:51,440 undersea and talk with one of its crew 23 00:00:56,389 --> 00:00:54,719 members of a nemo 18 aquanaut and nasa 24 00:00:58,150 --> 00:00:56,399 astronaut janette epps to ask her how 25 00:01:01,270 --> 00:00:58,160 it's going 26 00:01:03,189 --> 00:01:01,280 it's actually going really well 27 00:01:04,549 --> 00:01:03,199 and now this week um we're in mission 28 00:01:05,670 --> 00:01:04,559 day three 29 00:01:09,030 --> 00:01:05,680 of the um 30 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:09,040 of the mission and yesterday i did eva 31 00:01:13,750 --> 00:01:11,360 with aki and we had a few problems with 32 00:01:16,070 --> 00:01:13,760 comms but everything seemed to work out 33 00:01:18,390 --> 00:01:16,080 in the end we got a lot of good data 34 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:18,400 and we came back into the habitat 35 00:01:23,749 --> 00:01:21,040 experience and so today we have tama and 36 00:01:26,789 --> 00:01:23,759 market mark outside and um they're in 37 00:01:28,950 --> 00:01:26,799 the melvin eva right now that sounds 38 00:01:31,830 --> 00:01:28,960 great so eva so basically you did a 39 00:01:32,950 --> 00:01:31,840 scuba walk to simulate a space walk what 40 00:01:35,350 --> 00:01:32,960 that would be like and i know i 41 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:35,360 understand you went out yesterday with 42 00:01:38,710 --> 00:01:37,360 aki hoshide and you guys were working on 43 00:01:40,950 --> 00:01:38,720 doing some drill 44 00:01:43,429 --> 00:01:40,960 core samples is that correct 45 00:01:46,230 --> 00:01:43,439 that is exactly right and um thanks for 46 00:01:48,149 --> 00:01:46,240 explaining these and so yesterday we 47 00:01:50,149 --> 00:01:48,159 went out and we were 48 00:01:53,350 --> 00:01:50,159 pretending that we were excavating or 49 00:01:55,590 --> 00:01:53,360 exploiting an asteroid so we had a 50 00:01:58,550 --> 00:01:55,600 drill with a core on it so that we can 51 00:02:01,270 --> 00:01:58,560 take core samples from a mock asteroid 52 00:02:05,190 --> 00:02:01,280 and we also had cutting tools so that we 53 00:02:07,109 --> 00:02:05,200 can um basically take samples from 54 00:02:09,109 --> 00:02:07,119 the asteroid as well 55 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:09,119 so you're going underwater for nine days 56 00:02:14,390 --> 00:02:12,000 um can you explain to me how do you feel 57 00:02:16,070 --> 00:02:14,400 being submerged for nine days underwater 58 00:02:17,589 --> 00:02:16,080 at that habitat and doing things like 59 00:02:19,030 --> 00:02:17,599 you did yesterday the scuba walk to 60 00:02:21,190 --> 00:02:19,040 simulate the spacewalk how is that 61 00:02:24,150 --> 00:02:21,200 preparing you to get ready for a space 62 00:02:25,990 --> 00:02:24,160 flight well so i haven't flown but i can 63 00:02:27,270 --> 00:02:26,000 um you know in talking with aki our 64 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:27,280 commander 65 00:02:31,110 --> 00:02:28,800 some of the things that we experience 66 00:02:32,869 --> 00:02:31,120 here for example um we're 67 00:02:35,110 --> 00:02:32,879 in saturation so that means that we 68 00:02:37,110 --> 00:02:35,120 can't just ascend to the surface anytime 69 00:02:39,110 --> 00:02:37,120 we want and that means we have too much 70 00:02:40,949 --> 00:02:39,120 nitrogen in our blood so we have to 71 00:02:42,630 --> 00:02:40,959 basically 72 00:02:45,430 --> 00:02:42,640 so 73 00:02:47,910 --> 00:02:45,440 even go back home is one way that it's 74 00:02:50,309 --> 00:02:47,920 um simulating space but also there's six 75 00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:50,319 people here and on the space station at 76 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:52,720 a given time you have maximum six people 77 00:02:55,670 --> 00:02:53,760 right now 78 00:02:57,350 --> 00:02:55,680 and so that's another way and then you 79 00:03:00,229 --> 00:02:57,360 know we have to have things delivered to 80 00:03:02,550 --> 00:03:00,239 us as if we had a a logistics vehicle 81 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:02,560 that would deliver stuff we have divers 82 00:03:07,190 --> 00:03:04,800 bringing things down from the surface 83 00:03:09,270 --> 00:03:07,200 and um bring them to us so there's a lot 84 00:03:11,509 --> 00:03:09,280 of similarities also our timeline is 85 00:03:14,070 --> 00:03:11,519 such that it's very similar to what we 86 00:03:16,070 --> 00:03:14,080 would have on a space station and i'm 87 00:03:18,869 --> 00:03:16,080 comparing this to what um aki our 88 00:03:21,830 --> 00:03:18,879 commander has told us and it's very fast 89 00:03:22,790 --> 00:03:21,840 pace there's a lot going on all the time 90 00:03:24,710 --> 00:03:22,800 and um 91 00:03:26,309 --> 00:03:24,720 you're really doing a lot of great 92 00:03:29,350 --> 00:03:26,319 things especially some of the experience 93 00:03:31,110 --> 00:03:29,360 that we're doing the um evas the mock 94 00:03:32,470 --> 00:03:31,120 spacewalks that we're doing to simulate 95 00:03:33,910 --> 00:03:32,480 going to an asteroid 96 00:03:35,990 --> 00:03:33,920 so all the things that we're doing 97 00:03:39,190 --> 00:03:36,000 everything is an experiment to further 98 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:40,789 one other thing i'm hearing just a 99 00:03:44,830 --> 00:03:43,040 couple of breaks as we're talking and so 100 00:03:47,110 --> 00:03:44,840 it just leads me to think about 101 00:03:49,509 --> 00:03:47,120 another activity i think you guys are 102 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:49,519 working on is uh how to deal with 103 00:03:54,309 --> 00:03:51,840 communication delays can you tell me how 104 00:03:56,710 --> 00:03:54,319 you guys are simulating that 105 00:03:58,390 --> 00:03:56,720 yes so um over the next few days we 106 00:04:00,550 --> 00:03:58,400 haven't started yet but in the next few 107 00:04:03,750 --> 00:04:00,560 days we're going to start having a calm 108 00:04:05,509 --> 00:04:03,760 delay with with the um topside so what 109 00:04:07,350 --> 00:04:05,519 we're simulating is if you go on a 110 00:04:09,190 --> 00:04:07,360 mission to mars it's going to take a 111 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:09,200 little time for that signal to get back 112 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:10,480 to earth 113 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:13,120 so how do we cope with that um it seems 114 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:15,599 like a simple 115 00:04:19,509 --> 00:04:16,560 and 116 00:04:23,749 --> 00:04:19,519 um interesting when you have a 30-second 117 00:04:27,590 --> 00:04:25,350 and then when you send a message back it 118 00:04:31,990 --> 00:04:27,600 takes another third 119 00:04:37,670 --> 00:04:35,830 so um that time delay in many situations 120 00:04:39,110 --> 00:04:37,680 where we're either performing some kind 121 00:04:40,230 --> 00:04:39,120 of procedure 122 00:04:42,629 --> 00:04:40,240 um 123 00:04:44,629 --> 00:04:42,639 building some kind of piece of equipment 124 00:04:46,150 --> 00:04:44,639 you know if we're running procedures and 125 00:04:48,870 --> 00:04:46,160 different things like that or even an 126 00:04:51,430 --> 00:04:48,880 emergency how do we cope with 127 00:04:54,150 --> 00:04:51,440 um having a time delay like that and so 128 00:04:57,350 --> 00:04:54,160 developing the the methodology to do 129 00:04:59,909 --> 00:04:57,360 that will help us once we go to mars or 130 00:05:02,870 --> 00:04:59,919 even beyond mars so 131 00:05:05,350 --> 00:05:02,880 developing a protocol for communications 132 00:05:07,029 --> 00:05:05,360 is very important because um 133 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:07,039 you can have 134 00:05:11,029 --> 00:05:09,520 frustrations you can it can even lead to 135 00:05:13,189 --> 00:05:11,039 miscommunication 136 00:05:14,950 --> 00:05:13,199 which we want to avoid so developing a 137 00:05:17,830 --> 00:05:14,960 protocol is um 138 00:05:19,510 --> 00:05:17,840 a good priority for us right now what 139 00:05:20,870 --> 00:05:19,520 other activities are you guys working on 140 00:05:25,189 --> 00:05:20,880 i understand there's some human body 141 00:05:26,629 --> 00:05:25,199 studies so what are you doing to do yes 142 00:05:28,469 --> 00:05:26,639 so we're looking at several different 143 00:05:31,189 --> 00:05:28,479 things so we're wearing these on badges 144 00:05:33,110 --> 00:05:31,199 i don't have my badge on now but um 145 00:05:36,310 --> 00:05:33,120 there's several different badges that 146 00:05:38,469 --> 00:05:36,320 look at team adhesion and cohesion and 147 00:05:40,469 --> 00:05:38,479 how we interact with each other 148 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:40,479 and so i'm very fortunate because i've 149 00:05:45,270 --> 00:05:42,880 got a good group of guys and so 150 00:05:47,270 --> 00:05:45,280 it's an easy experiment for us but it 151 00:05:49,590 --> 00:05:47,280 looks at proximity to each other it 152 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:49,600 looks at our heart rate it looks at um 153 00:05:53,830 --> 00:05:51,360 there's other studies that look at the 154 00:05:56,710 --> 00:05:53,840 um hormones that we produce when we're 155 00:05:57,830 --> 00:05:56,720 in a attention uh 156 00:06:00,150 --> 00:05:57,840 from 157 00:06:02,309 --> 00:06:00,160 experiments where we're playing sort of 158 00:06:04,870 --> 00:06:02,319 a game and it looks at our hormones 159 00:06:06,629 --> 00:06:04,880 before and after there's another study 160 00:06:09,270 --> 00:06:06,639 that looks at how our inner ear 161 00:06:12,230 --> 00:06:09,280 stability is affected 162 00:06:14,070 --> 00:06:12,240 um so we there's several other um 163 00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:14,080 techniques we're looking at 164 00:06:18,629 --> 00:06:16,560 where certain types of um 165 00:06:21,189 --> 00:06:18,639 monitor 166 00:06:23,110 --> 00:06:21,199 so we're looking at many different ways 167 00:06:25,909 --> 00:06:23,120 for our health and human performance as 168 00:06:27,590 --> 00:06:25,919 well so all of it seems to work together 169 00:06:29,909 --> 00:06:27,600 human being that's going to be deployed 170 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:29,919 into space as well as some of the tools 171 00:06:34,469 --> 00:06:32,319 that we use on the surface if we ever go